It looks like the no Munchie offense is not very good. Kay may have fewer turnovers, but points are what wins, and we're not scoring much. Temple and USF are not good measuring sticks because they have poor defenses. Three points against the R is terrible. People who wanted Munchie out and Kay in got what they asked for. When the bowl game rolls around I'm hoping Munchie is in. Kay is not bad, but he's not very good either.