Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
New Blog: Our Daily Bears for Baylor fans!
Sprint-network-bar2 01

West Virginia 24 Cincinnati 21 | Sunday Links

Follow Down The Drive on Facebook/twitter and check out the store.

WVU 24, UC 21 // Bearcats Nation

It’s unclear if Zach Collaros, who was limited to crutches in the 2nd half, will be able to play next week against Rutgers. The good news is Legaux seemed much more comfortable in the starting role as the game progressed and is a much more natural fit for this offense despite his inexperience. Losing Zach isn’t good for this team but it won’t be a killer. The defense played great today against arguably the best offense in the Big East sacking Geno Smith five times and only allowing 17 offensive points. They will not face a tougher offense the rest of the season.

All very important points

Bearcats Lose Collaros, Lose to West Virginia // Bearcats Blog

Munchie made up for the gaff by hitting Kenbrell Thompkins, 67 yards, for a 34 yard strike. He hit Thopmkins with another pass to the 21. UC went uber conservative, run, short pass, all while letting the clock run. On 3rd down, they chose to play for the tie, calling a QB draw that got nothing. Jones let the clock run, then called timeout. That part is cool. What's not cool is that he then called another timeout, icing his own kicker. That gave WV time to get a block ready. UC has given up 5 or 6 blocked kicks before this. As you know, the Miliano kick was blocked. Cincinnati lost. They lost because they played for the tie.

The "UC lost because Butch Jones played it safe" angle is bullshit. Percentage wise UC's best chance for a win was to play for overtime. I have no issues with it.

WVU holds on to beat UC 24-21 // Bearcat Lair

Maalik Bomar was also lost to an injury earlier in the third quarter, and despite returning to the sideline in full gear, he failed to return to the game. The injury was referred to as muscle spasms, but after the game Butch Jones stated that he was still waiting on news as to the severity of the injury.

This is the injury that no one is talking about.

Munchie could keep UC title hopes from going up in smoke // cincinnati.com

In so doing, the Bearcats also relinquished the inside track to a third BCS bowl in four years. They're still 3-1 in the Big East, a half-game ahead of Pitt and Louisville, which they've beaten already, and Rutgers, their opponent next Saturday. WVU is also 3-2. If UC wins its last three, it's home free.

UC still has the inside track to the Big East. It's called controlling your own destiny.

UC vows to press on without Collaros // Bill Koch

The UC players said they will not allow the loss of Collaros deter them from their pursuit of their third Big East championship in the last four years. "We’re not hanging our heads on Munchie," said running back Isaiah Pead. "We have a new quarterback. We have a new leader on the field. I have all the faith in the world in him."

And so the "how can you possibly win a game without Zach Collaros" storyline has already taken root

Star-divide

Blocked field-goal try lifts West Virginia past UC, 24-21 // cincinnati.com

"I think we suffered just about every adversity that you could suffer in every single aspect of a football game," said UC coach Butch Jones, "but they kept fighting and it came down to the final play."

Many claim blocked kick, but Smith left red-handed // cincinnati.com

"As soon as I got through the wing, I knew I was going to block it," he said. "I saw (the ball) as it was coming off his foot that it was going to be a low-trajectory kick ... I was ecstatic."

Bearcats' not counting on Collaros' return // cincinnati.com

Legaux had both good and bad moments against the Mountaineers. He was intercepted on his second pass and badly overthrew his receiver on several other occasions but still finished with a respectable 10 of 21 for 144 yards. He also ran for 77 yards, including a 65-yard run, and scored a touchdown on a 7-yard run.

I really hate intellectually lazy people. That's why the hackish media in this town draws my ire so often. Did Munchie Legaux have good and bad moments yes. But in the course of a game everyone has good moments. The relevant point is that almost all of Munchie bad moments came early, all the good ones came late. That's the real story that no one in Cincinnati is bringing up.

West Virginia 24 Cincinnati 21 // MSNsportsNET.Com

Pead once again burned West Virginia’s defense this afternoon with 113 yards on 19 carries, giving him 369 yards and four TDs in three career games against the Mountaineers. He also became the third back in Cincinnati history to surpass 3,000 yards rushing for his career.

WVU football: Mountaineers block out errors, knock out No. 23 Cincinnati  // Charleston Daily Mail

"It's not as much about what we did or didn't do offensively," Coach Dana Holgorsen said. "It's not as much about what we did or didn't do defensively. Same thing with the special teams. It's not about that. It's about how much effort and energy we played with. It was the theme of the week."

QUICK HITS: West Virginia 24, Cincinnati 21 // CBSSports.com

Few weapons on the West Virginia roster are as valuable as wide receiver Tavon Austin. Austin did about everything for West Virginia, totaling 246 all-purpose yards on the afternoon. Austin and fellow wide receiver Stedman Bailey were once again favorite targets for quarterback Geno Smith, who finished with 376 yards, one touchdown and no interceptions. The Mountaineers overcame two missed field goals, 13 penalties, and only 28 yards rushing to squeak out the victory. Much of the credit can be given to the West Virginia defense, which responded well when the Bearcats were forced to turn to backup quarterback Munchie Legaux.

West Virginia back in thick of Big East race // Big East Blog // ESPN

The No. 23 Bearcats (7-2, 3-1) still control their destiny in the Big East race as the only team with one league loss. But West Virginia (7-3, 3-2) and four others are right behind with two losses each. If Collaros is out for an extended period as anticipated, there are no guarantees that the Bearcats win out to get the BCS berth.

Tweet Comment 4 comments  |  Add comment  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

I'm not sure how "percentage wise" overtime was UC's best bet

Gino Smith from the 25 yard line > Munchie Legaux from the 25 yard line. In OT, the Bearcats would have been definite underdogs. On the other hand, scoring a touchdown to go up 4 with less than a minute to play would have made them slight favorites, at least.

The problem wasn’t kicking the field goal on 4th down - the problem was having Munchie turtle over to the hash mark on 3rd and 4. A coach that does not even attempt to get a first down on 3rd and 4, down 3 points is a coach that deserves to lose the game.

The only bright side to this is that the Bearcats have 3 games to determine whether Munchie is the QB for 2012.

Molecular gastronomy can take a hike as far as I'm concerned.

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Nov 13, 2025 7:34 PM EST reply actions  

because the field shrinks and space condences

The issue for spread offenses of the Air Raid iteration has always been short yardage and goal line situations. The closer they get to the endzone the harder it becomes to score because the route concepts that are so effective leveraging space between the 20’s stop working the closer the offense gets to the goalline. Its simply easier for 7 defenders to cover 5 receivers when there is just 10 or 20 yards to work with.

Down The Drive | @Downthedrive

by Matt Opper on Nov 13, 2025 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

So you just quit on 3rd and 4?

Even given any theoretical problems with the Air Raid in the red zone, WV was, in fact, better in the red zone than Cincinnati on Saturday, and their offense was at full strength. Even if you like the odds of winning in overtime, why not TRY to win in regulation? You don’t get a bonus for exposing the flaws of the Air Raid in OT. The chances of converting the 3rd and 4, and getting into the end zone, are much, much greater than the chances of turning it over there.

On top of that, in order to defend the 3rd and 4 call, you have to argue that UC’s red zone offense if good enough to outplay WV in OT, but not good enough to trust them to try to gain 4 yards on a single play. Considering that the latter is much easier than the former, that is a pretty foolish argument.

And if you are really committed to playing for the tie when the win is within easy reach, why not kick the field goal on 3rd down? High snap, the holder covers up and you get a second chance on 4th down.

It is never, ever a good idea to throw away a decent chance at a game winning TD (25-30% chance at least) in favor of making a field goal slightly easier (maybe 5% easier at the absolute max, considering they moved the ball just a yard or so laterally).

Molecular gastronomy can take a hike as far as I'm concerned.

by RoastBeefKazenzakis on Nov 13, 2025 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

you aren't going to agree with my reasoning

But you are overestimating the chances of UC punching in a winning TD in that game with 30 seconds left facing a 3rd and 4 at the 14 are much lower than 25-30 percent. For a start the odds of simply converting that third down itself is probably around 20 percent, 25 at the most. and that’s in a vacuum. Not including contextual factors like the consistently sloppy play of the offensive line all game long or the fact that to that moment UC was 4 of 14 converting third downs on the day, including 1 for 3 on third downs of 3 or less yards. The odds of the Bearcats converting that third down and going on to score a TD in 20 seconds are obviously lower than the odds of converting that 3rd down. It wasn’t like the staff declined to go for it on third and inches and instead took a knee. They called a safe play with a reasonable chance of success, a QB draw. Which it should be noted had already worked once for UC on the day, albeit in a different situation It didn’t work on that play because Eric LeFeld and Evan Davis both got destroyed by their men.

Down The Drive | @Downthedrive

by Matt Opper on Nov 13, 2025 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  


User Tools

This site will only ever be as good as the contributions you make to it. I welcome your thoughts, opinions and insights. Without them this is just me shouting into a void.

Latest NCAAF Headlines From SB Nation

Black Heart Gold Pants
Ron Zook And The Badgering Reporter
And The Valley Shook
A Very Special ATVS Interview...
Troy Nunes Is An Absolute Magician
Syracuse vs. Manhattan/Albany - NIT Tip-Off Impressions
BC Interruption
Frank Spaziani Week 12 Press Conference Transcript
Streaking The Lawn
Florida State's Jimbo Fisher Scouts Virginia

More Latest NCAAF Headlines From SB Nation »

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Flags_small
Is ESPN Too Powerful?
Small
Bearcats Preview with Paul Dehner of GoBearcats.com

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

Bearcats Football Schedule

Austin Peay Sat 09/03 W 72 - 10
@ Tennessee Sat 09/10 L 23 - 45
Akron Sat 09/17 W 59 - 14
N.C. State Thu 09/22 W 44 - 14
@ Miami (Ohio) Sat 10/01 W 27 - 0
Louisville Sat 10/15 W 25 - 16
@ South Florida Sat 10/22 W 37 - 34
@ Pittsburgh Sat 11/05 W 26 - 23
West Virginia Sat 11/12 L 21 - 24
@ Rutgers Sat 11/19 12:00 PM EST
@ Syracuse Sat 11/26 12:00 PM EST
Connecticut Sat 12/03 12:00 PM EST

The Down The Drive Alternative Nippert Stadium Ring of Honor

SB Nation Hot Topics


Manager

23rd_2__2__small Matt Opper